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Re: A Korean-American Journey (Score: 1)
by OmegaSupreme on Sunday, May 01 @ 21:06:16 EDT
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"In terms of your "man group," all it will do is further distant yourself from the people you are so frustrated with, but yet want to be embraced by -- Asian women"

How so? If women and asian women have their own support groups, why can't asian men?

" I'm assuming that you want a partner/girlfriend and not multiple partners at a time."

Actually, neither as my wife would definitely not approve! Interesting that you assumed I was single though :)


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Re: A Korean-American Journey (Score: 1)
by Swinger203 on Monday, May 02 @ 05:02:32 EDT
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"In terms of your "man group," all it will do is further distant yourself from the people you are so frustrated with, but yet want to be embraced by -- Asian women."

I agree with Omega on the fact that a man group wouldn't alienate further. Asian American Women have their support groups, why shouldn't the Asian American Men? Although what I would fear is that misogynistic viewpoints would surface. That is something that would be inevitable. As I am sure some misanthropic viewpoints surface in feminist groups.

"How about open forums for both women and men to have dialogue?"

I think that modelminority.com is that forum. We are having that dialogue right now.

"Desirability is in the eye of the beholder. As for physical features, all types of women have a variety of preferences. There are billions of women in the world -- you'll find someone. Last time I heard, the 'skills' (as in personality) that women like are men who listen, who are considerate, and men who aren't there to criticize or control them. Of course, I'm assuming that you want a partner/girlfriend and not multiple partners at a time."

I don't think desireability is entirely in the eye of the beholder. Studies indicate that it is strongly linked with cultural norms. In a culture that marginializes and emasculates Asian males (most of Western culture), it is harder for men to be seen as "desirable." There may be billions of women in the world but we live in America. We're looking for the women here. On a more personal note, in regards to the considerate, listener description, confidence is the single largest factor. As much as one would like to believe "being nice" is. Confidence is what gains you the initial attraction and maintains desirability. It's rather naive to think otherwise. Girls of all races will often lament, "why aren't there any nice guys." Often, they aren't really looking for them. Some food for thought.

Other then all this...I commend you for posting. I"m glad that there is some dialogue between the genders. I stop coming here for a while because, while I often sided with the viewpoints of the "cynical with AF clique," it was depressing and making me increasingly misogynistic. I needed it to stop and it is refreshing to see you speak (I've read some of your posts on this article) and I'm glad you are bringing your own views. There is a large angry population of Asian males on this forum...and I hope that you aren't turned off by it so much that you stop contributing.


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