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Re: The Problem Runs Deeper Than Details (Score: 1)
by ac2004 on Tuesday, April 20 @ 02:46:52 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Uuh, I think you put this reply under the wrong thread. BTW, I completely agree with you ... BUT, I'm not the guy who wrote the quote you posted above .. it was minotaur (or whatever his name) (the previous set of threads) |
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Re: The Problem Runs Deeper Than Details (Score: 1)
by minotaar on Tuesday, April 20 @ 21:13:25 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | We have been in north america for hundreds of years, but we have not had a significant presence in the political systems until the last generation or so, and even there our presense is small. Only recently have we started to see Asian aldermen and reps and senators. Only recently have there been asian professors and a huge presence in universities.
How many white people in the 1800s do YOU think went to college? or were educated and socialized in the presense of people of other races? Of course asians have been on the continent. But our geopolitical impact has been negligible (sadly) until only recently.
Once we start having impact, then our voices will be heard. Once our voices get louder, our demands will be met. This takes generations. Considering that aggregious (sp?) civil rights violations like japanese internment happened as recently as half a century ago, and considering our current (only moderately better) state, I would give it two more generations; maybe approx 2100.
I am asian. I will always be asian. But I will not always be foreign. If you believe that the ideas and beliefs of people around you take thousands of years to change, you are completely incorrect. You arent thinking rationally, and you are making your decisions based on trivial facts - just because asians have been here for hundreds of years doesnt mean they have had impact for hundreds of years. Your pessimism sickens me.
you live in a great time, where asian americans are being more and more strongly represented. We are all indebted to those of us who refuse to settle for total acceptance of asians, and its important to foam at the mouth, but pessimism only breeds apathy, and the AA society has plenty of that already.
Think for a moment about how different poeple are generation to generation. One or two more generations, and asians will be as american as apple pie.
Note also that Blacks were here for hundreds of years before they really had impact on society. They were literally detained on plantations, and they had no impact until the civil war really made slavery an issue. in the 1850s, black people could be hunted like animals. It took 100 years to turn that nearly completely around (though much work still remains). Do you really think that a thousand year time frame is even CLOSE to reasonable? I give it 100 years MAX to nearly complete asian integration into the american conciousness. of course, no integration is always perfect.
Its easy to be pessimistic and negative. Grow up. |
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