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Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine?
Posted by Andrew on Thursday, March 10 @ 10:00:00 EST
Contributed by OmegaSupreme
Dating and Sexuality By Rick Sha
©2003 Rick Sha

Taking the Easy Way Out is a great article but Sister, Can You Lend An Ear is one of my favorite articles ever written by an Asian American woman on Asian America because the article covers bases that's often ignored when the subject of community and activism are discussed.

Like the author noted, I too am disturbed when I hear a "politically aware" Asian woman talk about the dynamics of race, gender, and politics when she’s involved with a white man. This sort of back talking is something I have seen time and time again with so-called politically active Asian women, and it smacks of hypocrisy and contradiction.

Ms.Oh really nailed it on the head when she said "Since I am fighting a system that characterizes Asian men as being undesirable and weak, it would undermine my own credibility if I were to choose a white male over an Asian male." So unlike many of these so-called "politically aware" Asian women, the author actually sees and understands the correlation between the talking the talk and walking the walk. And while there are many Asian women pretenders to the cause, there are just as many true crusaders to the cause. Articles like these - written by a true-blue sister - make me proud to have a strong sister like her on our side. So why don't we see and hear more Asian women with that voice and viewpoint?

While both articles touched on many things that Asian America should do to better connect the community as a whole, I also feel very strongly about the sexist, misogynistic and patriarchal attitudes that many of our lost brothers harbor towards our sisters. Now I'm referring to the hapless sellout Asian men who are constantly criticizing Asian women for dating and marrying out yet would give each other high fives whenever they see a brother with a white woman on their arm. Seeing an Asian brother with his white woman does not make me break out in cartwheels. In fact the site of Asian men with their trophy makes me even more furious. How are they gonna criticize Asian women for being sellouts when they go around thinking that it's ok to have a white woman dripping off their arm? The hypocrisy runs both ways.

One of the major round table discussions among Asian men is the rapid rate at which Asian women are dating and marrying white men. While their frustration is understandable, I find it appalling that their attitude is often to "give up on Asian women altogether" and try to land a trophy white woman. It appears the reasoning is "if Asian women don't want us, then our only recourse is to also date outside." But the flaw in that mentality is that it solves nothing, does nothing to empower our community and is just as hypocritical.

The Insecurities of the Asian American Male

But some of these brothers sound like they have taken a page out of the "politically aware" Asian women's guide to selling out. Recently, I've encountered more and more lost brothers who are using the exact same excuses that whitewashed sellout "politically aware" Asian women have used to justify their relationship with a white man. I have been hearing from lost brothers that "Asian women are too snobby", "Asian women don't give me the time of day", "I'm not attracted to Asian women because black hair turns me off", "All Asian women want 6 foot guys with muscles". Now if that ain't a ***** and a half. Say what? Is it really Asian women's "attitudes" that's the problem or Asian men's own insecurities? For Asian men to lay the blame on Asian women to compensate for Asian men not having game and putting white women up on a pedestal like that is foolish. These poor ass excuses for going after white women just makes me wanna go Columbine on these lost brothers.

The relationship woes for many of these justifying brothers are not because of Asian women being "snobby" or "materialistic" but rather because of their own insecurities as an Asian man in America. Growing up as Asian men, we have all too often been subjected to images where we are the bad guys, the servants, and the eunuchs while the Asian woman has been the damsel in distress, the lotus blossom, and the chinadoll. The need to de-emasculate ourselves has taken many forms. There are a growing number of lost brothers who are so hell bent on "proving" that they are not the “emasculated eunuchs” that they are portrayed to be that they will go to any length to hook up with a white woman. Being able to land the supreme trophy, the ultimate prize is the all-American dream for these brothers. To lay blame to Asian women and to apply these personality traits as if to say only Asian women are snobby or materialistic or suggest that only Asian women want a tall man as justification for their preference to white women is just as whack as those Asian women who say "Asian men are unromantic", "Asian men are patriarchal" or “Asian men are short”. These excuses - one after the other - infuriate me to no end.

I hardly think white women are suckers for short white men nor do I think white women are chasing after the Woody Allens of the world. Take a look at any of the reality based shows like The Bachelor and Joe Millionaire and you will see all these snobby materialistic white women are all after their very own well off 6 foot white man. So these "snobby", "materialistic" personality traits are not applicable to only Asian women.

When I hear Asian men say that they are only attracted to white women or that they're gonna start dating white women from here on out, I have to laugh at their stupidity. If the images of Asian men are that of “feminized eunuchs”, why the ***** would white women want that? Gonna start dating? Like white women are tripping over each other upon hearing a lost brother profess his attraction to her white-ness. And if the image of the Asian women now is one of desirability and sexuality then why are Asian men trying to land their own white trophies? Shouldn't these Asian men be wanting and going after what white men now deem "beautiful" or are these Asian men trying to hook up with a white woman because they know white men’s perception of Asian women are based on nothing but racist stereotypes?

The fact of the matter is the aesthetics of what goes into being a “beautiful” Asian woman are stereotypes espoused by white men for their own Asiaphiling fantasies. The standard of beauty and the ideal is still "whiteness" in the form of fair hair and light eyes. Therefore lost brothers who desire the token white trophy are very much trying to dispel the stereotype that they are eunuchs. Gender and social dynamics aside, who do these brothers think they're fooling when they proclaim a "preference" for white women? Their white “preference” doesn’t mean jackshit. More likely than not, the sight of Asian women with their white boyfriends have caused the brothers to view all Asian women as self-loathing sellouts. Therefore going after the unattainable "white girl" is just a justification on their part because the validation of a white woman is the ultimate validation of their manhood and sex appeal.

Same White Choice

Sadly, the scapegoating and blaming of one another by both genders is a testament to how the Jewish controlled WASP endorsed media has brainwashed our community. Each is trying to up one the other by seeing who can sellout the fastest and who can distance themselves the furthest from the community and each other. Yes, I am aware that the media continually pumps out the Asiaphiling fantasy of Yoko look-alikes and yes there are a proportional amount of whitewashed sellout Asian women who are stereotyping themselves to white men. But because of our position in American society, Asian men must not and should not think that landing a white woman is the answer to all their romantic woes. Nor should Asian men behave in a sexist and misogynistic manner towards Asian women who are down with the cause. This will only create a bigger rift in the delicate Asian American fabric.

The solution to the problem is not by demeaning and degrading Asian women but by working together towards a solution. It's undeniable that Asian women have always dated and married out at a higher rate than Asian men, but increasingly, Asian men are also doing their fair share of selling out with their trophy white women. Hypocrisy and selling out is not the solution to empowerment. The solution is when Asian women and Asian men work together and NOT see each other through the same stereotypical lenses that white men and women see us through.

Just like I can't see how a "politically aware " Asian woman can claim to be representing when she is with a white man, I also cannot see how a brother can claim to be “representing” when he chastises Asian women for their choice of mate when they have made the same [white] color choice. Asian men must not, should not and cannot treat Asian women with double standard gloves to justify their relationship with a white woman. And how are the brothers gonna expect the sisters to sympathize and fight along side them if they’re unwilling to curb or acknowledge their own sexism and the sexism the sisters face from the mainstream white community?

Celebrities often lose credibility when their lifestyle doesn't reflect the public service ads that they endorse like those anti-drug ads. Whose gonna take that celeb druggie seriously? The same credibility issue applies to our community. To be truly politically active and aware, I feel that both brothers and sisters must be conscious of their actions especially in their dating habits. If the name of the game is empowerment, then the actions should reflect the rules of the game.
 
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Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by JunKim on Wednesday, June 08 @ 02:36:19 EDT
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Hey, great article but. "Jewish controlled WASP endorsed media has brainwashed our community." Where did that come from? I know that there are tensions between the Jewish and AA community but I didn't know they were the main "enemies"? Huh?

I don't know. I'm AF myself, but you know what? Personally I think it's tough for the AM too. Hard to be all "masculine" and "sexy" just the way it's hard for me to always have a strong voice and speak out, there's just so much prejudice and discrimination. Yeah, we're all trying and we need to try until we can correct these goddamned false images; but in the meantime we need to stop beating ourselves over the head about when we fail now and then. Sometimes I'm speaking out on the behalf of all minorities, someone says something so stupid and insulting I can't reply for a moment, and I feel Shit, I shoulda done better... but I just try to do better the next time, not self-flagellate for not being perfect.

And you know what? I'm just as sick and tired of the AF on white man's arms thing as any of you AM's are. It drives me nuts, especially when these girls are so proud that they 'made' it by being selected. To me, it just signifies self-hatred, a lack of awareness of the strength of a woman--girls, you DON'T need a white man to be able to live strong and well here!--and I don't feel like Gee, I should get a white man too. That line of thinking is just plain offensive to me. I have value as a human being, I don't need ta be attached to anyone else to be valuable, no thanks. And yeah, it's just as disgusting when AM's feel a need to get a white woman. I don't mind if that individual's TRULY in love w/ that particular white woman, regardless of race--but when the numbers increase, and a trend shows, it's hard to always believe that argument, whether male or female. And it's racist too, to that white woman or man. Ya know? Doin' the same thing, looking only at his/her skin, when he/she is a valuable human being too. Yeah, white people are valuable human beings too, and they shouldn't be viewed as trophies by any of us, the same way we shouldn't be Suzie Wongs.

This whole deal is just sickening.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by swivel63 on Wednesday, March 23 @ 19:53:13 EST
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some of us asian men need to man up and grow a pair. then maybe we'd have more success and be less emasculated.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by DFH on Wednesday, March 23 @ 20:32:19 EST
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"by swivel63 on Wednesday, March 23 @ 19:53:13

"some of us asian men need to man up and grow a pair. then maybe we'd have more success and be less emasculated."

GREAT POST....SEND AN E-MAIL TO "njyonseI"!




Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by OmegaSupreme on Thursday, March 17 @ 21:10:01 EST
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Although this has been mentioned in the forums I wanted to summarize 2 fatal flaws in Rick Sha's argument that were discussed at length:

1. When it comes to romance and relationships, its pretty obvious that Rick Sha has absolutely no idea about how women in general think. He is buying into the feminist notion of "sameness",which is a lie, although it's only natural for men to assume that women think like we do.

It is the real life actions which do not jive with this "sameness theory" that will bring about misunderstandings between men and women. The real life actions and the way men and women communicate demonstrate that we are different. Its the difference that we need to understand and respect or there'll be dissention.

The feminists that try to say that men and women are the same are doing us a disservice and DEEPENING the divide between AMs and AFs.

2. What Rick Sha also has to recognize is the fact that AMs must face the burden of unequal power and representation when it comes to promoting themselves in the dating scene. Because of the stereotypes that portray them as emasculated and weak, they have to place themselves in a position where most of the time they have to work twice as hard to attract half of the women compared to the average white guy. Those are the facts. And when looking at AF/WM and AM/WF couples and their numbers, these facts have an adverse effect on AM masculinity and AF femininity that CANNOT be ignored or brushed aside. In short, the facts are that AM/WF couples and their small numbers do not affect AF femininity in any way; however, AF/WM couples and their significant presence affects AM masculinity in a BIG way.

By no means am I advocating that AMs date WFs out of misplaced racial stereotypes. But there is a realistic wake up call that must be realized: ONLY AMs can rectify the IR disparity and the only way they can do that is to defy the stereotypes placed against them and learn the ins and outs of dating women of ALL races.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by Rick on Wednesday, March 16 @ 10:24:50 EST
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Good article. Indeed, there are asian men out there who need to show some backbone.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by BoXu333 on Thursday, January 05 @ 20:40:27 EST
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As a AM, I do not agree with this article, it is BS. If asian women can date outside of the race, Asian men should be able to do the same. And because AW are statistically more successful in the social scene doesn't mean shit. I do pretty well with the dating scene, although the incapabilities of many other AM makes it alot more difficult for me.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by matthewz on Thursday, February 23 @ 21:06:23 EST
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Can you clarify what you mean by "Jewish controlled WASP endorsed media?" As an Asian American, I don't see how stereotyping another minority group can improve our station in society.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by nausmen on Sunday, July 01 @ 23:23:47 EDT
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Rick Sha's article is a piece of crap. "Jewish controlled WASP endorsed media has brainwashed our community"??? I'm an Asian guy happily dating a white Jewish American girl. The Jewish community in the US has a lot in common with the Asian communities. We are all overachievers and stigmatized by others for being so.

Men and women are equal but different. AF/WM and AM/WF relationships have very different social and cultural dynamics. No amount of your misguided feminist indoctrination will change that. It is absolutely not hypocritical for an AM to mark off those AF who only date WM as losers and not worth the AM's time.

Only when AMs tilt the balance of the gender gap in Asian-white interracial relationships, will AM regain their masculinity as a group in the US.



Re: Brothers, Can You Spare Some Spine? (Score: 1)
by LorenzoDeLaCruz on Thursday, August 09 @ 12:41:24 EDT
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Must be me being in London that I don't here much of the Jewish controlled media.

I do hear that accusation of "Zionist" ideal from anti-semites.

Anyway, back to the insecurities of Asian Males.i.e. talking about people previously regarded as from the Orient rather than the Indian Sub-continent.

I would have to say that the thought never occurred to me that dating women, who do not possess epicanthic folds, is being hypocritical or placing said women, on a pedestal.

I suppose, living in my city allows me to meet women from all over the world.

I love it that way.







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