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A Slap in the Face
Posted by Andrew on Friday, December 03 @ 10:00:00 EST
Contributed by OmegaSupreme
Dating and Sexuality By Shi Chen
©1999 The Paradox (University of Wisconsin at Madison)
Spring 1999

What is wrong with our Asian men? Why do so many Asian women choose to date out of their race? Recent statistics have shown that a larger percentage of Asian women date out of their race than any other minority group. This would certainly warrant the sense of betrayal felt by many Asian men. After all, Asian men tend to surpass the national average in long-term virtues: industry, self-restraint, and law-abidance. These were once looked upon as ideal qualities in a man. In a time of open-mindedness and freedom, young women listen less to the traditional wisdom of how to pick Mr. Right, and listen more to their hormones. This has created a society in which men predisposed to being tall, with great physiques can more easily get away with acting like Mr. Wrong. Asian men generally are not as predisposed to having these characteristics. This is a slap to their face.

Asian women have traditionally and stereotypically been labeled as exotic, elegant, beautiful, subservient, and desirable. They are "mysterious," and many non-Asian men have developed a certain fetish for Asian exotica. Being an Asian American woman, I vividly remember the time when a white man approached me and blabbered something in a language that was foreign to me. My look of confusion led him to ask, "Aren't you Japanese?" He continued to tell me how he has dated several Asian females, how he thought they were really beautiful, and how he was really attracted to Asian girls.

If you're an Asian woman, you've probably been there: a non-Asian guy wants to date you because he thinks you're "exotic" or because he's "really into Buddhism." Maybe he assumes you are some timid geisha girl, placed on this earth to fulfill his wildest fantasies. Even though many Asian women are born and raised in the United States, we still carry with us the stigma of the passive, obedient traditional "butterfly." This image, popularized by the media, American war stories, and Asian sex tours, perpetuates a slew of myths about the "mysterious East." There is something disturbing about being treated as a mysterious idea and not a human being with individual characteristics.

In spite of this, many Asian women continue to date non-Asian men, specifically whites. It can be flattering when a white man finds you attractive. Suddenly, you are appreciated and made visible by the very group that has kept you invisible, and that may have once rejected you. It is not often that I meet Asian men who hold such a high regard for Asian women, putting us on a pedestal. Asian guys often seemed so disinterested that I sometimes wondered if I gave off some inconspicuous, unconscious signal that said, "Don't bother, I don't date Asian guys." I eventually came to realize that Asian men are just not as adventurous or assertive enough when it comes to dating.

Although we criticize white men for having Asian fetishes, a significant number of Asian women often exclusively date white men. "I don't date Asians," an anonymous UW freshman said. "I just don't find them attractive." The fact is, while Asian women are labeled as exotic, Asian men are portrayed as duds. In my quest to find out what is really wrong with Asian men, the typical responses were that they are weak, unromantic, unexpressive, unaffectionate, boring control freaks. Asian men usually appear in popular American culture as small-penised computer geeks, sheep-like Japanese tourists with cameras, servants in coolie hats, or helpless, hapless convenience store owners. White men, on the other hand, are portrayed as dynamic and virile. Thus, Asian women go for what we perceive to be a "catch," or what appears to be a step up. It has also been suggested that Asian women have a "Caucasian fascination." There is an assumption that if you marry a white man, your children will be beautiful. With beliefs like these, I can't help but wonder if there's a mutual fetishism.

Are we as Asian American women subconsciously rejecting our culture? Or are we simply exercising our rights to date whomever we choose? It depends. In America, where many of us live in white neighborhoods and go to white schools, trying to fit into Western society plays a big role in our choices. Many Asian American women are first-generation. In some ways, being American is synonymous with being white. In the midst of balancing two cultures, it is often Western ideals and images that influence Asian American women the most, including our dating habits. Like other American girls, we learn to idolize the blond football captains, the Brandon Walshes, and the Robert Redfords. Instead of succumbing to the media blitz that says white is right, we as Asian American women should open our eyes and give men an opportunity based on their merit. Ultimately, the choice of whom to date is an individual one. Being loved for who you are beneath the surface is what really counts, regardless of race. Just be wary of the guy who asks you to lightly slap his ass with a silk fan, or the one who is more intrigued by your Asianness than by your essence.

Asian men deserve the highest respect. This is merely a reflection of views that have populated the media and our society. Our men should be valued for their incomparable strength and integrity and continue to fight these unjustified and unfair racist portrayals.
 
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Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by sir_humpslot on Friday, December 03 @ 22:07:14 EST
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WTF IS THIS BS ARTICLE? omega, were you drunk when you submitted this? i don't know whether the AF author is lamenting or reveling in the racial caricatures.

i'm not going to point out the AF sexploitASIAN stereotypes in the article since that perpetuates the fetishizing and i'm not about to get into an argument over AF media images with AF apologists -- be they AF or WM.


"I eventually came to realize that Asian men are just not as adventurous or assertive enough when it comes to dating."

thank you auntie-tan-in-training for perpetuating the asexual asian dweeb with a broad-sweeping baseless generalization on all AM.


"Asian men are portrayed as duds. In my quest to find out what is really wrong with Asian men, the typical responses were that they are weak, unromantic, unexpressive, unaffectionate, boring control freaks. Asian men usually appear in popular American culture as small-penised computer geeks, sheep-like Japanese tourists with cameras, servants in coolie hats, or helpless, hapless convenience store owners. White men, on the other hand, are portrayed as dynamic and virile. Thus, Asian women go for what we perceive to be a "catch," or what appears to be a step up."

thank you MS yet-another-self-hating sellout for pointing out all the media caricatures and perpetuating the racism against AM all the while sucking the whiteroosters. WTF is this statement that something is inheriently wrong with us AM? where're the missmel articles pointing out the hypocrisy and racism?

omega, you'd better have a good explanation for posting this article. it really got my blood boiling after reading the BS passive-aggressive rationale for sellingout. THIS ISN'T A POSITIVE ARTICLE! even the last paragraph doesn't point out what positive images AM ought to have and is tacked on as an afterthought. every freshman journalism major knows the least important information of an article goes to the end so it can be edited out.

why do i get the feeling shi chen is merely another auntie-tan-wannabe-AF who's passively-aggressive perpetuating the racism so as to not get any backlash from AM on this sellout article?



Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by sir_humpslot on Friday, December 03 @ 22:13:13 EST
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read this article by missmel to see an example of fighting racism and yet having positive AM portrayals instead of the above BS self-hating-sellout auntie tan.

http://modelminority.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=765



Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by ric on Saturday, December 04 @ 11:53:06 EST
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Well this article actually reflects an AF understanding on where or what she is seen as in mainstream america and plights of AM social stigma.

This is a great post omega, especially for younger and uneducated asian/aa cowrd.




Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by whatever45 on Sunday, December 19 @ 04:40:02 EST
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What's wrong with women/men dating outside of their "race"? Why are AW criticized for wanting to date outside of their race? If an AW dates/marries anybody other than an AM, they are looked upon negatively. It's a shame! Nothing wrong with interracial dating! And people need to get over that old-fashioned thinking and realize that true love is color blind & we all have different standards of beauty.

And just because a white/black guy pursues an AW doesn't necessarily mean that person has a "fetish". "Fetish" is one of those insulting words.... We all have different standards of "beauty", what one person finds attractive, another may not and vise-versa.

And of course, as human beings we are abit shallow. Looks matter to some degree, not completely, but since first impressions matter, looks matters. Would you hit on someone you weren't attracted to? Would you marry a person you weren't attracted to? Or would you rather marry someone who fits into your specific standards of beauty, whatever that may be?

I know many women and men, with various nationalities, that only date specific type of people because that is their standard of beauty.

Some women/men find those that are tall & dark attractive and PREFER to only date that type of person. Some men/women find blond hair, blue eyes attractive and prefer to date those that have that look. Just as some women find Asian men attractive and prefer to date them only. And even some AM & AW only date a specific Asian nationality. For example, I have a Japanese-Hawaiin friend that ONLY dates Phillipino men. She grew up and lives in Hawaii and there are alot of different men to choose from, but she is naturally attracted to Phillipino men ONLY. It's not a fetish it's just that they have a specific look she finds to be handsome & attractive in a mate. Many of the times, she wouldn't even know what they're nationality is, and she hits on them, and come to find out that they're always Phillipino, go figure!

I have dated men of various "races" and come to the conclusion that I find those of mixed races to be the most beautiful, interesting & unique. This is my standard of beauty, someone else's standard of beauty might be different, but this is mine. I don't call it a "fetish" I say this is what is beautiful to me. Just as somepeople prefer the look of a tough guy/gal. Some prefer a guy who looks like a big teddy bear, some prefer long hair, some prefer short hair, some prefer a girly girl, some prefer a tom boy. Let's be honest, when you see someone you don't know what they're like on the inside, because the first thing you will see is if they look good to you. If the outside meets your standards, then you get to know the inside. That's just the shallowness of man/womankind!



Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by kriss on Wednesday, December 29 @ 16:30:12 EST
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"Asian women have traditionally and stereotypically been labeled as exotic, elegant, beautiful, subservient, and desirable. They are "mysterious," and many non-Asian men have developed a certain fetish for Asian exotica."

That is true, but doesn't every racial and geneder group have their own stereotypes and fetishes? I know plenty of Asian males that lust for busty blondes, because they are sexy, wild, exciting, and open. I also know plenty of Asian men that prefer Asian women for being a "passive, obedient traditional butterfly" as well.



Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by jkygogo on Saturday, March 12 @ 00:30:29 EST
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I am of Japanese descent born in California. It's frustrating when Asian girls here and even in Japan have decided they don't want to date Asian men or Japanese men for whatever reason which to me seems very racist and mean. I can't tell them what to do because they'll continue to do this for whatever reason. I can only pray that there will be Asian Females for me to date and find that right girl. And I can only be positive that my male Ancestors back in Japan will do ok and be able to marry Japanese girls of their own choosing. I'm not asking for the Japanese guys to repress the Japanese girls, but just as good guys to be able to have a choice to marry a good and open Japanese female if they want.
For those Asian females in American and those Japanese females in Japan who don't date Asian males or Japanese males anymore, I don't agree with their choices but again that's their prerogative. I can only make myself happy and do what's right for me.
If I can be more positive then positive things can happen for us Asian males and Japanese males in Japan. Maybe because we focus in on this aspect that we bring it about subconsciously or spiritually. We bring about or manifest these things by what we think. Therefore, I've got to think positively and do the best I can.

Take care.

J.



Re: A Slap in the Face (Score: 1)
by jkygogo on Saturday, March 12 @ 00:43:34 EST
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I also want to say I don't consider myself old fashion and don't ask a girl to be so submissive that it perpetuates the stereotype of Asian females. And I resent those Asian Women who give that as an excuse that they don't date Asian males anymore. I don't deny that there are Asian males who think this way, there are. But don't try and rationalize dating out of your race with this generization that all Asian males think this way. That's a bunch of crap.
From my perspective, I think alot of these Asian women here and Japanese women in Japan who only date Western men are very materialistic and practice reverse discrimination against us Asian males or Japanese males in Japan. Again, that's their prerogative and no amount of telling them to change or not act a certain way will do anything.
Again, I can only try and be positive and think positive to manifest positive changes for us Asian males here and Japanese males in Japan.


Thanks.

J.


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